Can't hit high notes

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Can't hit high notes

Postby bebopluvr » May 05, 2019 1:36 pm

Hi,

Trying desperately to match pitch by singing. I'm a baritone. EarMaster keeps trying to make me a tenor. Ain't gonna happen. It's hard to match by singing an octave lower. Is there a way to set the range of tones used in pitch matching so I don't have to hit notes way above middle C?

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Re: Can't hit high notes

Postby bebopluvr » May 05, 2019 1:43 pm

Nevermind. Just found the vocal range setting. As a technical writer, gotta say EM documentation needs A LOT of work.

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Re: Can't hit high notes

Postby Quentin » May 07, 2019 4:41 am

Hi,

In the Beginner's course, you'll only get questions in the G-clef regardless of your tone range, as explained in the lesson introduction. You can sing in the octave of your choice and EarMaster will transpose everything silently.
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Re: Can't hit high notes

Postby bebopluvr » May 07, 2019 7:34 am

Thanks -- somehow missed that in the intro. I still say the documentation is useless.

Plus, asking a beginning singer to match pitch an octave or more below what's played...not exactly a beginner's skill.

Beginning to think Ear Master isn't what it's supposed to be.

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Re: Can't hit high notes

Postby Quentin » May 08, 2019 12:52 am

It is common practice to introduce the treble clef before moving on to other clefs in courses for beginners. Since not all users have a voice range within the treble clef, EarMaster lets the users sing the pitches in any octave they find comfortable and transposes weverything automatically. If you have a suggestion for a better solution that doesn't involve using other clefs, we would be happy to consider changing this :) . We have just been at a music show where very young kids were doing that very exercise without problems, so I am not sure how problematic it is, besides the fact that it should probably be explained better.

I reckon that the documentation could be denser. We do have plans to work on that aspect.
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Re: Can't hit high notes

Postby bebopluvr » May 08, 2019 7:32 am

It's a problem for me. I guess Denmark children are way more talented than I am.

What's wrong with showing the Bass Clef? You seem so convinced you have it right that you can skip the answer.

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Re: Can't hit high notes

Postby Quentin » May 09, 2019 1:47 am

Initially, the Beginner's Course used the vocal range selected by the user. Then we had a lot of complaints that the F-clef and the C-clef were not suitable for beginners. Therefore we changed it to always use the G-clef, allowing users to sing their answers in any octave.

It's not easy to make everyone happy. There are many possible approaches and preferences, and our job is to find the best solution for most users. We are never blindly convinced that our solutions are the best, this is just not how we work. We are perfectionists, always on the lookout for better ways to do things. So if you have a suggestion to make the exercise work better for beginners, we would be very happy to know it.

Notice that in any other area of EarMaster, the software WILL use your vocal range setting and diplay notes using either the treble, bass, tenor or Alto clef.
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Re: Can't hit high notes

Postby Quentin » May 10, 2019 2:51 am

Your post made us think a lot about this aspect of the beginner's course, so we have started a public poll/discussion on our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/earmaster
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