Melodic Dictation on Chord Progressions

Discuss EarMaster, ear training, theory or music in general, ask questions and share your experience.

Moderator: Quentin

User avatar
bm
Ear training expert
Posts: 18
Joined: May 18, 2008 1:47 am

Melodic Dictation on Chord Progressions

Postby bm » May 18, 2008 1:49 am

I have found the Melodic Dictation exercise to be a useful complement to David Lucas Burge's Relative Pitch Supercourse.
However, it seems to me the Melodic Dictation exercise is not operating correctly when it comes to Chord Progressions.
Could someone please explain how it operates, or release a corrected update, please?

User avatar
Quentin
EarMaster.com
Posts: 1798
Joined: Apr 27, 2007 1:25 am
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Postby Quentin » May 19, 2008 5:19 am

Hello,
To which extent do you find it not operating correctly?
regards,
Quentin
- Because in Music, We're All Ears... -

User avatar
bm
Ear training expert
Posts: 18
Joined: May 18, 2008 1:47 am

Postby bm » May 20, 2008 12:53 pm

I've just started Exercise 29. EM5 selected C major, for which I understand the IV chord to include the notes F, A and C; the V chord to include the notes G, B and D and the I chord to include the notes C, E and G. However, the dictation passage is A-D'-E'-A-G-F-G. The first note and the last three notes in this particular passage seem fine to me, but I can't see how the D' fits the IV chord, or how the E' and the A fit the V chord. If the chord changes on each note (and the sequence repeats), the last four notes in the passage don't fit. I hope this explains my confusion.

User avatar
Hans
EarMaster.com
Posts: 266
Joined: May 24, 2005 12:54 am
Location: Denmark

Postby Hans » May 21, 2008 1:57 am

Lesson 29 is based on the IV-V-I progression. The 7 tones in the question is divided on the 3 chords in different ways for each question, i.e. there can be 1 to 5 tones with the IV chord and the same for V and I.

You should not think about what chords are behind the melody. It is a melodic dictation exercise not a chord identification exercise. EarMaster does not play the other tones in the chord, so it is very difficult to find out what chord is behind each tone in the melody.

Best regards,
Hans Jakobsen
EarMaster

User avatar
bm
Ear training expert
Posts: 18
Joined: May 18, 2008 1:47 am

Postby bm » May 22, 2008 11:22 am

Thank you for your explanation, Hans.

User avatar
bm
Ear training expert
Posts: 18
Joined: May 18, 2008 1:47 am

Postby bm » May 30, 2008 2:22 am

There's an intermittent error on Melodic Dictation lesson 29: 'Could not make a melody with the current settings!'. The melody then selected seems to be the previous one, and often the notes on the staff are labelled '??'. It seems to be associated with having the 'Auto new question' feature enabled.

Any suggestions as to how to overcome this without disabling 'Auto new question', please?

User avatar
Quentin
EarMaster.com
Posts: 1798
Joined: Apr 27, 2007 1:25 am
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Postby Quentin » May 30, 2008 3:23 am

Hi,

This error may (rarely) happen when the program is attempting to compose a melodic line according to the set up rules and comes to a point where it can't use any valid tone during the process.

It doesn't have anything to do with "Auto New Question" so you don't need to disable it. This error should not occur often and hopefully it won't disturb your progression too much.

The only solution to fix that would be to write a whole new algorithm.
- Because in Music, We're All Ears... -

User avatar
bm
Ear training expert
Posts: 18
Joined: May 18, 2008 1:47 am

Postby bm » May 30, 2008 8:23 am

Hi Quentin, thank you for letting me know about this error. It's reassuring to know you're aware of it. As you said, it doesn't happen very often.

Best wishes

User avatar
muurgsi
Ear training freshman
Posts: 1
Joined: Oct 19, 2014 6:42 am

Re: Melodic Dictation on Chord Progressions

Postby muurgsi » Oct 19, 2014 6:48 am

Hello,

I realize 6 years have passed since the last post to this thread.

I get the error message "could not generate a melody with current settings" all the time in the Module 13 "Melodies in Am". If I click ok Earmaster Pro will play the root note and then notes with a very low, for the human ear unidentifyable notes. It happens like 3 times out of 10 (which doesn't not qualify as "very rarely).

Is there any way around this? Help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

David

User avatar
Quentin
EarMaster.com
Posts: 1798
Joined: Apr 27, 2007 1:25 am
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Re: Melodic Dictation on Chord Progressions

Postby Quentin » Oct 20, 2014 1:54 am

Hi David,

Is this happening in a specific lesson of module 13? I have not been able to reproduce the error yet.
- Because in Music, We're All Ears... -


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests